Shalom ><> (Important note about Isaiah 17 — This Chapter is also tied to destruction in Israel, so Isaiah 17 – if future, happening before the 7 Year End or maybe even near the Beginning, may not make a lot of sense — being Israel will need to be pretty intact I would think for a Temple to be built, and for Israel to start to come around to choose Jesus as the Messiah — The Two Witnesses) ><>
(It is possible this Prophecy could be dual in Nature and may happen again). {see below, John MacArthur says Damascus was already destroyed in the past}
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
Burden = Ominous Message of Doom
It could be That Damascus, Syria is the oldest continually inhabited City in The World that has never been destroyed.
However John MacArthur in his Study Bible says that this Prophecy was already ful-filled with its destruction by the Assyrians in 732 B.C.
‘ MacArthur, John. The MacArthur Study Bible. La Habra, CA: Nelson, 2006. (p. 961)
Isaiah 17 could be a dual in nature Prophecy.
Isaiah 17 — Bad News For Damascus and Bad News For Israel — If This Prophecy is Future, This is Bad News For Both Damascus And Israel.
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
Isaiah 17:2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. (Aroer/Syria)
Isaiah The Prophet
3 The fortress(‘dominion’ maybe/fortified city(s)) also shall cease from Ephraim, (Northern 10Tribes also known as Israel [722 B.C.])and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts. (Israel and Damascus were confederated together so they fared alike [glory diminished] when God used Assyria to Judge them) ‘ MacArthur, John. The MacArthur Study Bible. La Habra, CA: Nelson, 2006.
The Prophecy may be dual in nature with the kingdom ceasing from Damascus in the future and in the past when Assyria destroyed Damascus in 732 B.C. — You would also have to pass pretty serious judgment upon Israel too in the future (v.9 Desolation). There could be desolation in Israel in the future though :: Luke 21:24 Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,…. 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.
This could be when Israel fell under judgment from Assyria in 722 B.C. and/or it could be future during Jacob’s Trouble. Zechariah 14:2
5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.
6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel. (Israel majorly compromised as a Nation) [Israel/Northern Kingdom was deported by the Assyrians for 20 years, then finally destroyed in 722 B.C.] ‘ MacArthur, John. The MacArthur Study Bible. La Habra, CA: Nelson, 2006. — read verse 9 — there will be desolation.
If This is Future, There could be a Nuclear and Chemical Weapon Exchange with Israel/Damascus.
This Chapter may make the most sense read in connection with Zechariah 12 to 14. (End Time)
Zechariah 13 says 2/3 will be cut off from the Land of Israel and only 1/3 Left.
Zechariah 14 says God will gather all Nations against Jerusalem to Battle (Armageddon) — the cities will be captured/the houses plundered/the women ravished/half the city will be exiled.
7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
(Could be past and future :: 1/3 of Israel chooses Jesus at The End) [Israel/Northern Kingdom was deported by the Assyrians for 20 years, then finally destroyed in 722 B.C. — ‘ MacArthur, John. The MacArthur Study Bible. La Habra, CA: Nelson, 2006.]
8 And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.
9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation. (Jacob’s Trouble — Mid-Point of Trib & onward it may be — 2/3 of Israel cut off — or past Ful-filled Prophecy? — but may/could be dual in nature)
10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips: 11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.
Desolation and desperate sorrow because Israel has forgotten & not been mindful of The Lord. (could be: past/future or dual) In The future 1/3 are going to turn to the Lord during the End – Zechariah 13:8-9
The Next Verses Are Pretty Interesting:
Isaiah 17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
Ezekiel 38:9 (Gog – Leader of Russia, maybe Putin)Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
Psalm 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult:… 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Psalm 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes; 7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah
(Psalm 83 Countries below)
Isaiah 17:13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
Psalm 83 Confederate :: (future?)
Psalm 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. 13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
Ezekiel 39 ::
Ezekiel 39:1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: 3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. 4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
In Relation to Verses 12-13, the verses are pretty interesting., They could Be The Ezekiel 38/39 Battle (many nations, God destroys 5/6ths on the Mountains of Israel) — and could be when Isaiah 17:1 happens too and Possibly Even Psalm 83.
However, It may be If Isaiah 17 happens again, it may happen near the Middle – Onward of The Tribulation, thus most likely ruling out Ezekiel 38/39 – which probably happens near the beginning of the Trib. — Psalm 83 could maybe happen with Isaiah 17:1 — If Isaiah 17 happens again.
Psalm 83 may happen on it’s own, before/during the Trib or Psalm 83 could of been ful-filled in the past too. 2Chronicles 2:1-30 ? (Psalm 83 could be dual in nature too)
Isaiah 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
Damascus could be Nuked in one night in the future. But may of been destroyed in the past as well (dual Prophecy maybe) however the verse above may mean this:
“When morning came, the invading force had disappeared…” (they left – vic)
‘ MacArthur, John. The MacArthur Study Bible. La Habra, CA: Nelson, 2006. (p. 962)
It could be that Isaiah 17 is dual in Nature and Damascus will be destroyed in the future. Middle of the 7 Year End onward, is when it may occur.
1 Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. 2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
They are confederate against thee, sounds like the Arab Confederate Leauge of Today.
The combatants :: 10 People Groups – Bordering Israel, In Israel or in close proximity to Israel. (All the Countries are Muslim and surround Israel) Psalm 83 – www.calvarychapelkaneohe.com – link
1. The Egyptians – Largest Arab Nation in the World – 80+ Million people – ‘Egypt key to destroying Israel’ – (controlling Egypt – Controlling Middle East?)
2. Jordanians/Jordan 3. Parts of the Saudi Family? Saudi Arabia – Arabs 4. Lebanon – Southern (Hezbollah – proxy organization of Iran) – Northern Part? 5. Syria/Iraq/Turkey (Assyria) 6. Gaza/Hamas
Of The Future Prophecies To Be Ful-Filled, in regard to :: Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38/39, — The Only One With 100% Certainty of happening, Is The Gog/Magog Prophecy of Ezekiel 38/39, That Takes Place in The Latter Times. (which could be very near) — Russia/Iran and others to attack Israel.
If Isaiah 17 is future, it could happen Mid-Trib on to near the End of Jacob’s Trouble, (near/at Armageddon). The Prophecy of Isaiah 17 – The Oracle Concerning Damascus, could have a dual reference to being past and future.
Psalm 83 could have a dual reference of being something in the past and could also be future.
The nearness of the Anti-Christ may be soon — When They Shall Say: Peace and Safety, it will be Sudden Destruction.. — Post
Europe and The USA are Financially ? — The U.S. is already financially Collapsed pretty Much. Buying & Selling will be brought down to a 666 Mark During The End. — www.bookofrevelationonline.com
The USA :: $16.9 Trillion in Debt – 99.3% — 8/27/13
Gold :: $1,621.16 an ounce – June 14, 2012
Debt crisis: Germany signals shift on €2.3 trillion redemption fund for Europe – Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk
The German government has begun opening the door to shared debts for the first time in a profound change of policy, agreeing to explore proposals for a €2.3 trillion (£1.9 trillion) stabilization fund in order to stop the eurozone’s crisis escalating out of control.
Isaiah 17 could be dual in Nature and may happen in the future — maybe Mid-Trib onward.
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